Forever Calc

WoW Forever Rogue talent calculator

Spend up to 51 talent points across Assassination, Combat and Subtlety, see the level you take each one at, and save the build or share it with a link.

Each Talented rank gives your first talent point one level earlier.

Compared with Classic:NewChangedMovedNo letter: same as in Classic

Assassination

Row 2 opens at 5 points
0 / 51

Combat

Row 2 opens at 5 points
0 / 51

Subtlety

Row 2 opens at 5 points
0 / 51

Leveling order

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    Rogue talent trees in WoW Forever

    • Assassination

      17 talents, 2 of them new since Classic. The deepest row, row 7, opens at 30 points in Assassination, which you can have at level 40 (35 with Legacy: Talented rank 5). It holds Venom.

    • Combat

      17 talents, 2 of them new since Classic. The deepest row, row 7, opens at 30 points in Combat, which you can have at level 40 (35 with Legacy: Talented rank 5). It holds Adrenaline Rush.

    • Subtlety

      19 talents, 5 of them new since Classic. The deepest row, row 7, opens at 30 points in Subtlety, which you can have at level 40 (35 with Legacy: Talented rank 5). It holds Thousand Cuts.

    How to use the calculator

    • Add a point: click a talent. Shift+click fills it up to its last rank. On a phone, tap the talent, then +.
    • Remove a point: right-click the talent, or on a phone tap it, then −. A point that a deeper talent depends on stays until you remove that talent first.
    • Keyboard: Tab to a talent, then Enter or Space adds a point and Backspace or Delete removes one.
    • Level shows the build with the points you have at that character level. Legacy: Talented rank moves your first talent point earlier, one level per rank. You still have 51 points in all.
    • Leveling order lists your points in the order you added them, with the level you take each one at.
    • Copy link and Copy as text share the build. Save keeps it in this browser, and My builds loads, deletes, exports and imports your saved builds.
    • Compare to Classic marks talents that are new (N), changed (C) or moved (M) since Classic Era and adds the Classic text to each talent's details.

    More about the Rogue

    Game data from the WoW Forever beta client, build 1.60.1.70291, as published by talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0) on 2026-10-08 and reformatted by us. Numbers can still change before launch.