Premeditation, a Subtlety Rogue talent in WoW Forever
Premeditation is an active talent in row 4 of the Subtlety tree. It needs 15 points in Subtlety, so the earliest you can take it is level 25 (up to 5 levels sooner with the Legacy perk Talented). It has 1 rank. It has changed since Classic Era.
Premeditation
1 rank
- 20 yd range
- Instant
- 2 min cooldown
- Requires 15 points in Subtlety
Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
Every rank of Premeditation
| Rank | Text |
|---|---|
| Rank 1 | Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost. |
Where it sits in the Subtlety tree
- Needs
- No prerequisite talent
- Unlocks
- No talent needs it
- Same row
- Row above (row 3)
- Row below (row 5)
Row numbers are on the left and the number in a corner is a talent's rank count. Gold marks Premeditation.
Compared with Classic Era
What differs from Classic Era: its rank 1 text and its position.
Position
Subtlety, row 7, column 2
Subtlety, row 4, column 2
Rank 1 text
When used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 sec or the combo points are lost.
Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
Open the Rogue talent calculator
All Subtlety talents
- Camouflage
- Master of Deception
- Opportunity
- Setup
- Elusiveness
- Dirty Tricks
- Improved Ambush
- Initiative
- Ghostly Strike
- Improved Distract
- Heightened Senses
- Premeditation
- Serrated Blades
- Dirty Deeds
- Preparation
- Hemorrhage
- Quietus
- Cutthroat
- Thousand Cuts
The other Rogue trees: Assassination and Combat. Everything that changed for the Rogue since Classic is on the changes page.
Game data from the WoW Forever beta client, build 1.60.1.70291, as published by talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0) on 2026-10-08 and reformatted by us. Numbers can still change before launch.